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Well man I gotta hand it to you, this was really something.... I can't fault the reasoning and all backed up by scripture, very faith strengthening .. very soothing and comforting for someone who has been abandoned by organised religion .... But I never lost my faith despite everything

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Aussie17's avatar

Christ in You, The Hope of Glory!

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Shelly S's avatar

Do you see the remnant referred to as a remnant of the post-Pentecost Church (spiritual Israel), or as a group of Jewish (cultural Israel) people who have/will come to Christ? I always struggle with the actual group to which these passages refer.

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it has nothing to do with earthly race. Jesus ushered in a new day and a new order. If any Man be in Christ, He is a new Creation because He has been born into a new creation.

Gal. 3:27 “For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

He presented a Kingdom not perpetuated by genealogy or the use of important titles. It angered many in religious organizations because they preserve their power through titles and genealogies.

John 1:12 "As many (individuals) as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His Name."

He created One Man (New Creation) out of two (Jew and Gentile)

‭ “having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace,”

‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2‬:‭15‬ ‭

“For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a NEW CREATION.”

‭‭Galatians‬ ‭6‬:‭15‬ ‭

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Galinda's avatar

@Aussie17, (1 of 10)

Hi. I understand your writing & thoughts, having been a radical born-again Christian for 40 years, with many miracles, visitations, answered prayers, healings, etc. I hope you will graciously read what I've written, as I've read yours & also the chapters you've quoted.

A short background:

I have Jewish, Catholic, & Protestant (Huguenot) & other heritage. In 1982 at the tender age of 17, after many years of being groomed for Xianity, I was taken aside & spoken to all day by a friend. After many Q's on my part - because I didn't find it logical - by the end of the day (& being a troubled teen who felt the need for forgiveness) I believed that I needed Jesus (not just Gd & Torah) & was radically "born again".

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Galinda's avatar

10 of 10

You're welcome to write me, or, better still, to ask Q's on Facebook's "Torah versus NT" page, which was started by & is run by Jews who have studied & lived out the Truth of Torah/Tanakh from birth, & by serious converts to Judaism.

Paul - if he even was a real person (it is proven that he was a random mixed-religion teacher under another name whose writings were adapted & incorporated into the church-narrative after the Council of Nicaea in 325 onwards) - had no right to oversee conversions, since he rejected any supposed eldership that he claimed to have (Phil.3), to follow after the image, "Jesus". Thus, he was not a legal elder of Gd & could not teach Torah nor make legal rulings like conversions! In fact, in Gal.3:14 he admits he is a Gentile, & in Rom.7:9-11 he shows he was once a pagan who wasn't under Torah, converted & found Torah too difficult, then blamed Torah instead of himself: he felt compelled to explain his failings away through long theological arguments which served to move his audience from believing in One Gd & His Torah, to believing in an image of Gd & a "new torah/covenant"! This was his modus-operandi: pretending to be a Jew to win Jews after the image, then pretending to be a Roman to win Romans after the image and changing Gd's law to the image's "law" (see 1 Cor.9).

This was typical of Jews who abandoned Torah to follow Greek-teachings & even to persecute their own Jewish countrymen, during the Greek persecution of Antiochus IV, & even of many Greeks caught up in the mixed Jewish-Greek culture of the day. It is happening, still, today in many settings, called friendship evangelism by the church; & unsuspecting youth are being led after the Palestinian trope by Muslim clergy who go under-cover to rave-parties; other times church clergy preach on Youtube against Israel & for the enemies of Israel... this is totally anti-Torah & anti-Gd's true Prophets! We need to study Tanakh carefully & humbly to protect our souls from deceit!

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Galinda's avatar

9 of 10

"NT", esp Matt.24 & Revelation, & Paul's teachings about a "2nd coming", all confuse those who believe them & who try to integrate them into Tanakh, because NT is conflicting & capsizes Tanakh. However, if we read & believe ONLY Tanakh & the explanations in Oral Torah by Gd's legal judges/elders - whom we must turn our hearts to so as to have an easier Day of The LORD (the Sacred Name, see Mal.3:22-24/4:4-6) - then it is easy to understand what Moses & the Prophets have said. The Elders & Prophets are in unity with Moses, & have not changed one word of Torah but only expounded (explained) it, much as Moses explained the laws of inheritance to Zelophehad's daughters who asked him, on two separate occasions, how they should apply it in their unique situation. He wrote it into Torah, but the 10's of 1000's of rulings by him & the 70 elders & their descendants were only partially collected together during the exiles, in order to not lose the wisdom & understanding & culture in the harsh realities that followed.

"NT", however, differs from Tanakh & from Oral Torah like chalk & cheese!

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Galinda's avatar

8 of 10

Tanakh is not like this at all. The righteous lineage - from Adam on down to today - were exceptionally careful to not change even one letter of what was written. Thus, when 2000 copies of Tanakh were collected from around the world, there was found to be only 7 minor spelling differences between them, e.g., an ayin instead of an alef at the end of a word.

While the written Torah has similarities between other laws unearthed in archaeological excavations from even earlier than the Sinai-experience, this doesn't mean that Torah borrowed from those laws/religions! We all know from Genesis & history that the nations all knew The Sacred Name of Gd & feared His Torah, but that they went more & more away from it over time, even persecuting those who kept Gd's customs & laws. We all know that Gd chose Abraham because he would pass His laws & statutes on to his offspring after him!

Thus, when Gd offered all nations Torah afresh, time & again, only Israel accepted it upon themselves & followed through with it, and a new bond/covenant was cut & made specific to Israel (there were anniversaries specific to the Nation & Land, & their relationship with Gd).

Torah is not new, but constantly renewed like wedding vows. Moses renewed it after 40 years; Joshua renewed it at least twice in His lifetime. Israel's kings/messiahs were to renew it with Israel every 7 years, & in Jer.34 we see that even an evil king renewed it with Israel. Ezra & Nehemiah renewed it with the returnees-from-exile. And it will be renewed again by the End Times' king/messiah in this same way, but with a UNITED N&S kingdom, in times when people will NOT say anyone can stand proxy for them, plus the entire world will know the Sacred Name, & in a time when Jerusalem WON'T again be ransacked (see Jer.31:27-40). None of this has been fulfilled: we all know that the N-tribes were "lost" until after the rebirth of the nation in 1948, & that Jerusalem was ransacked after Jesus; people still claim Jesus stood proxy; & not all the world know the Sacred Name as the only Name (see Zech.14:9). Thus, Jesus did not fulfill these prophecies of a renewed Covenant/Bond with Israel. This will happen in the 3rd Temple-day resurrection of Israel's dust (dry bones) (see Hos.3:4-5; Hos.6:2; Ezek.37). However, in Ezek.38-39, we see that the nations will not initially accept Israel's king; in fact, Catholic & some Protestant, & Muslim websites state that Israel's king is "antichrist" & that they will follow him - at his supposed return - to fight against Israel's king & against Israel, & to set up their ruler (Madhi) in Jerusalem. We see this brewing, right now! And it ties in with Dan.11:27 to 12:13, in which we see that the godly of Israel - those who KNOW their Gd - will firmly resist the N-king & his abomination which is set up by his invading armies. This will be a replay of the days of the Maccabees, but the end will be better, as Ezek.37-48 is clear that Israel will choose their king wisely according to Halakhah & Prophecies - all of which are based upon - & united & agree with -Torah!

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Galinda's avatar

7 of 10

And I saw the genuine meanings of Texts Xians (& I) loved to quote, e.g.,

Isa.53, that it is part of ch.41-54 & is about Israel, the remnant, the suffering servant (think of Israel in the holocaust as you read it),

... who will be exalted as per Dan.7:13-27 (& Dan.2, the little rock)... Israel is the human kingdom made up of "the righteous" bcoz of keeping Torah, versus the 4 beastly kingdoms (the 4th one being a combo of Rome & church, & later, Islam - followers of Jesus/Isa) which twisted the history & customs, & don't keep Torah properly nor obey the legal rulings of Gd's elders (see Ex.18 & Deut.17:8-13). To obey Gd's instructions (Heb, "Torah") is what we were created to be as humans! It is what makes us human; to live up to what we were created for!

also Isa.7's signs are about the 2 kingdoms that opposed King Achaz & Israel being destroyed BEFORE the boy Immanuel could distinguish right from wrong. It wouldn't be encouraging to Achaz to have a future king die for sins when he needed a sign of protection from the invading kings; and the tense indicates that the "young maiden" - probably Isaiah's wife - was already pregnant! There is no mention of "virgin" in those verses, besides, the "virgin birth" is a pagan idea used regularly by pagans to venerate their leaders, & it breaks the patrilineal DNA lineage so that Jesus is NOT a son of Solomon of David of Judah, and thus cannot be king/messiah!

Also, Isa.9:5-6 is clearly Hezekiah's name, which means "Gd is Strength"; he was a man who "was born out of nowhere", out of an idolatrous father who sacrificed his sons to Molekh... ch.37 speaks of his faithfulness that saved Israel!

There is so much more to this Xian saga, and it is - no doubt - difficult for anyone steeped in it as I was, and as you are - to even be willing to "go there", because of our dedication to the one we thought had "saved our souls" & "is Gd & Messiah". But, it's necessary for me to mention them, because it is Truth:

Constantine, the sun-worshipper, sought to unite his kingdom by uniting the various opposing factions & religious beliefs into one - beginning at the Council of Nicaea in 325 - thus creating a "One-World religion", and uniting two names into one god-man, and creating a persona for him called Jesus Christ, & writing a "church-father" narrative to convince the general populace.

It initially didn't go well, but he & his scribes were determined; they took teachings from a narrowed down (voted for) 7 or so favorites, & combined them, finding justification for them by taking random, loose verses from Gd's prophecies of a future Israeli king/messiah in Tanakh, & re-writing the narrative into a changed story!

This explains for the huge & multiple (over 2500) variants between "NT" manuscripts, which were all written after 325CE & constantly added to &/or subtracted from, & made to look as if they were written by eye-witnesses of a made-up man called "Jesus"! It explains for the multiple references to important quotes in Indian, Egyptian, Babylonian, Buddhist, & many other religions.

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Galinda's avatar

6 of 10

I saw that Gd hates any image or form of Him - even of a person - as the nations worship (Ex.20:1-6 & Deut.4:11-20) & thus will never make an image of Himself for us to go through nor to worship.

Mankind in Gen.1:26-27 are NOT claimed anywhere in all of Tanakh to be the very nature & exact representation of Gd, as is falsely claimed in Col.1:15 about Jesus... in fact, time & again the "NT" writers remove the Sacred Name from Sacred Texts they quote, & replace it with the name of Jesus... this is a sacrilege, & is the very thing that has confused & convinced people that Jesus is Gd, which he clearly is not, for Gd says there is no other, nor another name! It is the cleverest, most hyped-up form of idolatry, yet, to befall unsuspecting people who had gotten wise to ordinary idolatry!

That the disciples of Peter (Clement) & John (Polycarp & Ignatius) were even more Greek-Roman minded & less Torah-observant Hebrew than the apostles themselves had been, just one generation later... & that this gap increased until full-blown persecution & forced conversions of Jews ensued for nearly 2,000 years! This was Jesus' fruit??!!! Not good fruit at all! A few Xian schools are not good fruit, rather, they could've left Jews to preach Torah as Tanakh says is their duty as a chosen nation & kingdom of priests;

And I saw that Gd raised this enemy up BECAUSE of idolatry, to make Israel angry at the idolatry of that enemy, & so to turn away from their rock & all false rocks (gods);

And I saw that the church perpetuated the sin of Jeroboam (1 Kings 12:25-33) by having other priests than Levi & Aharon, having other mo'ed (appointments/festivals/dates), having other customs, & a different object (Jesus) of worship... a golden calf to lead them out of Egypt & into the Promised Land because they felt that "the prophet like Moses" was taking too long (P.S., the prophet like Moses will be human & do unintentional sin like Moses, & repent like Moses!);

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Galinda's avatar

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I was so shocked when I saw esp Deut.32:31 about the rock (god) of this enemy (which Paul calls the church) being false, so I asked Gd many Q's to make sure that I wasn't inadvertently rejecting & despising Gd by letting go of Jesus. Gd answered every one of them clearly:

I first asked if Paul was right or wrong, & perhaps Jesus was still who he claimed to be. Gd showed me that Paul had twisted many Sacred Texts, so he is a false-prophet, BUT, that - indeed - there is no other "no-nation" enemy of Israel that has caused the harm described in Deut.32 & warranted forewarning, as the followers of "Jesus/Isa", i.e., the church & all its offshoots! Thus Paul - like a foolish crook - left clues at his crime-scene about who/what the followers of Jesus/Isa are. And, indeed, that Gd raised them up, like the forbidden fruit-tree: just as Gd placed the two trees in Eden - and it was very good - we have the choice between obeying Gd's Torah (Heb, "instructions") or disobeying it; we must have freedom of choice in order to choose right or wrong, in order to be either sinner or righteous; and we can repent after sinning, without any mediator or need of a proxy! David gained forgiveness without sacrifice (Psa.51); so do the exiles & Gentiles (1 Kings 8); mankind was still created in the same "image of Gd" even after the flood (Gen.9:6). Thus, we can either give in to our animal instincts which don't acknowledge Gd & Torah, or we can use our godly-spark to connect with Gd & overcome our animal instincts, thus obeying Gd! We have a dual nature, unlike animals which have only animal-instincts.

God showed me that the more we have chosen wrong &/or the more deception we have been born into, the more He will place the two trees before us - the tree of LIfe (Torah), & the tree of the knowledge of good & evil (anti-Torah) - so that we can become so disgusted with banging our heads & failing before Gd, and eventually begin choosing right (Torah)! Thus, we become righteous. Isa.5:20 warned not to call what is good (keeping Torah) "evil" (claiming that it is "falling from grace to obey Torah"), nor to call what is evil (disobeying Torah) "good" ("grace", "trusting Jesus", etc). That is like those in Deut.29:16-22 who claim they can have images before the face of Gd & won't suffer for it; Gd says the good land will suffer along with the parched land!

Further, I saw that the root of the church teachings about Jesus, Mary, etc., is in the same Queen-of-Heaven (mother & child religion of Nimrod, aka Tamuz & husband-son Dumuzid) that caused certain Jews to cease to be the nation, i.e., be cut-off (made into "no-nation") in Jer.41-44, & that certain branches of the church still openly worship this "deity" today. In 1917 in Fatima, the "mother" part demanded conversion of the nations to the "child" part, with threats of WWII & Russian-arrows. Who was often blamed for Europe's woes? Jews, & all who refused to follow the lies!

I saw that this same "Morning Star" spirit which Nebuchad'netzar in Isa.14 worshipped, was admitted by Peter (2 Pet.1:19) & John (Rev.2:28; 22:16) to be the spirit that "Jesus" operated under.

I questioned how Paul, & esp Peter, & most esp Jesus... & even myself, could've been so deceived, & Gd told me that we were as convinced by signs & wonders as the (false) prophets who opposed Micaiah in 1 Kings 22 who were also totally convinced they were right! All people of ALL religions have these sorts of experiences, & thus think their religions are Truth... and, since I was born into confusion - as many Jews who had assimilated with Greek culture were - I was far more susceptible to deceit than Eve... and even she & Adam were deceived. But they repented! So, all I needed to do was repent!

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Then, on studying the Parshah of Deut.32 for the 9th year consecutively, Oct 2022, carefully & slowly without spiritualizing it, nor skimming over it to absorb only the bits that agreed with my learned Xian doctrines, I finally saw it:

Paul quotes a line from each of vs.21 & 35, saying Israel must join this enemy, forsaking to mention that vs.21, 27-43 all speaks of this same enemy, who are "no-nation" & "foolish"; whose root is in Sodom & Gomorrah; about their deadly-poisonous fruit, their false rock which Israel must rid themselves of, & the vengeance Gd will vent against them because of the blood of His people they shed, thus, atoning for His physical Land & physical biological People, Yisrael! Nowhere did Moses say Israel must join this foolish no-nation enemy (vine)! And Paul certainly doesn't call them that!

Soon I noticed that Paul twists all 8 Sacred Texts he quotes in Rom.10 alone, by replacing things, subtracting, adding, & generally underquoting & stringing loose verses together to form a different narrative:

Besides twisting Deut.30:11-20 which says that - when we lay up Torah (The Word) in our hearts & keep it in our mouths - it is easy to do & is our very life on earth, rather, Paul claims we must fill our hearts with Jesus & confess Jesus (thus changing it from Torah to Jesus... mmm, and we're so indoctrinated that we think this is right!)... he also twists it in other places by claiming Torah is too difficult (Acts 15), & we are too sinful to keep it (Rom.7), that Torah is death & dead & replaced with Jesus' Torah (2 Cor.3), etc. None of this is prophesied in Torah, but fits, rather, with the way the opponent (false) prophets "prophesied" & with Greek-Roman-Gnosticism.

He changes Good News about return from exile, into supposed good news about Jesus;

He adds a "but..." sentence between Isa.65:1 & 2, so that it looks like the rebuke is for Israel & the blessing is for the church (a careful look at Isa.65 will reveal that it is ALL about Israel)!

And on he goes to do violence to & sacrilege to every Sacred Text & Teaching he quotes.

I saw that Ex.23:7 says to have nothing to do with proxies, for Gd will not forgive anyone who makes use of them, & other laws which state that no-one may redeem or stand proxy for a guilty person whether by paying their fine, giving their sacrifice, or giving their life, and only the blood of the murderer can atone for the blood he/she shed; and that Gd alone forgives when we come directly to Him in sincere repentance... & take our oaths only in the Sacred Name (see all of Torah & the Prophets, 2 Chron.7:14; 1 Kings 8; & Isa.45:21-25, which Paul twisted in Phil.2:6-11.)

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3 or 10

By 2014, bcoz of all the antisemitism around the world, I sought End Times' chronology in the Prophets - whom I knew spoke Truth & were clear about it - & I got more than I'd gone searching for: I discovered Torah is 100% relevant at Judgement Day, still to come! So I became Messianic, & vehemently tried to prove Paul was Torah-observant, plus sought more evidence of Jesus in Torah (not only the Prophets) ... but, I discovered keeping Torah was EASY & not difficult as "NT" claimed! So I wondered why we were told we MUST have Jesus to do it for us??!!!

I studied Tanakh day & night for the next 8 1/2 years, purposefully throwing off any doctrines that differed from it, until it was laid up so heavily on my heart & I saw more & more that NT has capsized it.

By 2022 I saw clearly that Paul twisted Torah (all over, & most esp in 2 Cor.3);

& also that Jesus twisted Tanakh, e.g., he claimed to be the entire vine, & totally sinless so that he was making a new spiritual Israel by standing proxy for people's sins, who must all graft into him as branches. This differed from Moses who honored Gd's Covenant with the Patriarchs & refused Gd's "offer" (test, actually) to make a new Israel through him (Ex.32)... and also differed from Deut.17:14-20 about kings NOT BEING higher or better than their brothers... & from Isa.11 about End Times' king/messiah being one BRANCH from among the fruit-bearing branches of Israel's vine... & from Ezek.45:22; 46:16, 18 which prophecies that End Times' king/messiah/nassi will bring sacrifices for his own unintentional sins & have biological children who will inherit his land & throne! Another e.g. I saw is how Jesus' claim that he - as self-proclaimed king/messiah - will bring a sword between vital family relations, and that this differs from Gd's ideal & how it will happen when Elijah ushers in the time of the Prophesied king/messiah (BTW, there were quite a few kings prophesied, & they each fulfilled prophecy perfectly). I had long stuffed these Texts because I couldn't force them to fit the Jesus-narrative, but I just couldn't stuff them any longer! I realized I'd made many errors of judgement in many areas of my life, & could well be mistaken here, too, so began listening to Jews - whom Tanakh says will teach Gentiles in End Times - & found that they spoke sense & spoke the Truth! So, I stopped trying to prove Jesus & wanted to know WHY Jews don't believe in Jesus!

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Galinda's avatar

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Within a year or so, I became Pentecostal.

Looking back on my journal in the past few years - when I was trying to sort out where my life went wrong - I noticed that I'd quickly believed that Jesus brought about a new spiritual Israel, & that Jews & everyone else were doomed if they didn't accept him as king/messiah & Gd. I felt afraid for them - & me - if I didn't tell everyone about Jesus. I was so radical that I went as full-time missionary to Japan!!! [Thus, I found your posts bcoz of a posting your organization did about Japan & the opposition to the Covid poison-jab.]

BUT, in all those years it bothered me that NT differs from OT (more correctly called TaNaKh), though I didn't understand that Tanakh is the ancient, unchangeable Truth, & everything must be measured by it; rather, I thought there must've been an evolution of religion & that Paul must've legally changed Torah by Gd's will & design, bringing in a new type of "freedom", mmm, freedom from Gd's laws??!!! Doesn't make sense now, & doesn't fit with any of Tanakh, but I was trying to figure it out with all the church & NT theology I was consuming, & having been repeatedly told not to question NT/Jesus & risk losing my faith & salvation.

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